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Outside/In: The ballad and the flood

An aerial shot of Marshall, North Carolina during Hurricane Helene.
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Josh Copus
An aerial shot of Marshall, North Carolina during Hurricane Helene.

In Appalachia, Hurricane Helene was a thousand-year flood. It flattened towns and forests, washed roads away, and killed hundreds.

But this story is not about the flood. It’s about what happened after.

A month after Hurricane Helene, our producer Justine Paradis visited Marshall, a tiny town in the Black Mountains of western North Carolina, a region renowned for its biodiversity, music, and art.

She went to see what it really looks like on the ground in the wake of a disaster, and how people create systems to help each other. But what she found there wasn’t just a model of mutual aid: It was a glimpse of another way to live with one another.

Featuring Josh Copus, Becca Nicholson, Rachel Bennett, Steve Matlack, Keith Majeroni and Ian Montgomery.

Appearances by Meredith Silver, Anna Thompson, Kenneth Satterfield, Reid Creswell, Jim Purkerson, Jazz Maltz, Melanie Risch and Alexandra Barao.

Songs performed by Sheila Kay Adams, Analo Phillips, Leah Song and Chloe Smith of Rising Appalachia, and William Ritter.

Full transcript available here.


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Josh Copus, owner of the Old Marshall Jail Hotel, stands inside his flooded business.
Courtesy of Josh Copus
Josh Copus, owner of the Old Marshall Jail Hotel, stands inside his flooded business.

Links

An excerpt of “A Paradise Built in Hell” by Rebecca Solnit (quoted in this episode) is available on Lithub.

“You know our systems are broke when 5 gay DJs can bring 10k of supplies back before the national guard does.” (Them)

The folks behind the Instagram account @photosfromhelene find, clean, and share lost hurricane photos, aiming to reunite hurricane survivors with their photo memories.

A great essay on mutual aid by Jia Tolentino (The New Yorker)

In the early days after Helene, someone scrounged up a whiteboard at Nanostead and hung in the middle of the work-yard. To this day, it’s a critical organizing tool.
Justine Paradis
In the early days after Helene, someone scrounged up a whiteboard at Nanostead and hung in the middle of the work-yard. To this day, it’s a critical organizing tool.

Credits

Outside/In host: Nate Hegyi

Reported, written, produced, and mixed by Justine Paradis

Edited by Taylor Quimby

Our team also includes Felix Poon, Marina Henke, and Kate Dario.

NHPR’s Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie

Special thanks to the folks at Poder Emma and Collaborativa La Milpa in Asheville. Thanks also to Rural Organizing and Resilience (ROAR).

Music by Doctor Turtle, Guustaav, Cody High, Blue Dot Sessions, and Silver Maple.

Outside/In is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio.

Justine Paradis is a producer and reporter for NHPR's Creative Production Unit, most oftenOutside/In. Before NHPR, she produced Millennial podcast from Radiotopia, contributed to podcasts including Love + Radio, and reported for WCAI & WGBH from her hometown of Nantucket island.
Outside/In is a show where curiosity and the natural world collide. Click here for podcast episodes and more.
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