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Former hostage negotiator talks about the abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother

NPR's Leila Fadel speaks with Wally Ziens {ZIONZ}, a former NYPD detective and hostage negotiator, about the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, mother of 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie.

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Leila Fadel is a national correspondent for NPR based in Los Angeles, covering issues of culture, diversity, and race.
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