Former hostage negotiator talks about the abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother

NPR | By Leila Fadel

Published February 5, 2026 at 4:53 AM EST

NPR's Leila Fadel speaks with Wally Ziens {ZIONZ}, a former NYPD detective and hostage negotiator, about the abduction of Nancy Guthrie, mother of 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie.

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